Without the proper cleaning kit some shooters just left their barrels dirty and through this the stories of inaccuracy and bore-erosion started. Choose your caliber, bullet and bullet weight to find your desired Hornady load data. With 27.0 grains of A-1680, Speer 125-grain, .311-inch bullets leave the CZs 18.5-inch barrel at 2,335 fps. AVERAGE GROUP SIZE WITH MOST ACCURATE BRAND OF AMMUNITION. A 15-grain bullet will exit a barrel at hair-raising velocities initially, Ive had more than 4,300fps with a near maximum load, that gives 616ft/lb energy at the muzzle. rifles reviewed for Guns and Shooting Online, it Similarly, the 18-grain bullet, setting off at the same velocity of 4,300fps, has a greater energy figure of 739ft/lb and at 100 yards has dropped to 3,158fps and 398ft/lb, better than the 15 grain but not much. My Uberti-made 1858 Remington .44 at 25 yards will put six balls into a 2" group from a benchrest. Make sure to watch till the end. Westerns data guide shows 45.0 grains of the powder in the Swift firing a 50-grain bullet at 4,035 fps. At 200 yards, the velocity has lost a further 1,000fps and is around the 2,000fps mark and energy has dropped to 133ft/lb. If not, the bullet comes apart in the barrel or on the way to the target. The powder also shot well with 50-grain bullets fired in the .22-250. Bought one several years ago, since I load 17HH and 17 Rem. Joseph Von Benedikt shows his custom 500 and how well it shoots. Accuracy, again, is phenomenal, 0.5in or better at 100 yards. Brass Mfg: Winchester. .17 Remington - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Hornady #16 Lee #4 Lyman #26 RCBS #10 Recipe Type: Bullet Weight: Recipe Source: Starting Max Source 15.5 gr NTX (HDY) 0.172" Powder: Benchmark (Hodgdon) Primer: REM 7 Case: REM Trim Length: 1.786" C.O.L. The spherical powder flows smoothly and precisely through a measure, so powder is dispensed directly into cases to reduce loading time. 7,024. mean average group = 1-17/32". Western's data guide lists A-2200 loads for the .17 Hornet, .223 Remington, 6mm PPC and 6mm BR. Additionally, ammunition for the .17 HMR is often somewhat cheaper, too; for instance, MidwayUSA lists loads priced from $10.99 to $14.99 per fifty-round package, with the leadless options comprising the . * We tested two different Marlin Model 917VS and Ruger K77/17VMBBZ rifles. At 100 yards, which is a realistic distance at which you are going to shoot, the velocity has bled off to 3,010fps and the energy figures have plummeted to just over 302ft/lb, which is more than half the available energy lost before it reaches the target at 100 yards. It started promoting the powders and providing updated load data in its Western Powders Reloading & Load Data Guide, and Accurate powders have grown in popularity. five .17 HMR loads. While velocities with this stick powder lagged a bit behind the LVR loads, accuracy in the Model 336 was 0.67 inch with the Speer 180-grain SPFN and 0.83 inch with the Hornady 200-grain FTX. I'll be trying a load .5 gr. The best load I ever came up with was; Bullet Remington's 25gr HP, when you could get them, you may find a few still around if not {Substitute Hornady 25gr HP} The powder charge I used was; On the primers for a .17 Remington; I used Federal 205, 205M, CCI BR-4, CCI 450, and CCI#41 {the #41 was a mistake} WSR, RWS 4033 and Russian KVB-223 all properly seated. from that 120 gr. Lighter and tougher and more precise than ever, it's the perfect back country hunting rifle. Following is a brief description of each of the five This improves not only accuracy, but also the trajectory of the FTX is slightly flatter than that of roundnose bullets. A dose of 43.0 grains of LVR gives it a muzzle energy of 2,219 ft-lbs. Caliber: COL @ 1.800" snowpro440 Silver $$ Contributor Feb 12, 2016 #9 I use H4198 in my .17 Fireball and a 25gr. The second rifle is a Traditions Outfitter single shot. Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. different .17 HMR rifles (two Marlin Model 917VS rifles, Ruger I understand this is an old thread, but want to reply anyway. The subcompact GLOCK 42 carries 6+1 rounds of. However, I have a good H4350 load for the. It produced about the highest velocities of all the Accurate powders tested in the .223 with 40- to 60-grain bullets. This isn't your grandpa's muzzleloading system. CCI 450. The 20-grain bullets offer a good compromise over the industry standard 25-grain as they can be loaded faster. Hornady HP cut a notch in the tailbone segment and the shock killed the darned Coyote. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. By this same token, if the bullets jacket is too hard then controlled and predictable expansion on target can not be relied on, which it needs to be if it is to withstand the friction and heat generated when fired at hyper-velocity. The .17 HMR loads we use include ammunition from CCI with 17 grain TNT bullet, CCI A17 with 17 grain Varmint Tip bullet, Federal Premium with 17 grain TNT bullet, Federal Premium with 17 grain V-MAX bullet, Hornady with 17 grain V-MAX bullet, Remington Premier with 17 grain AccuTip-V bullet and Winchester Supreme with 17 grain V-MAX bullet. (See the article Compared: .17 HMR Varmint Ammunition for more details about .17 HMR ammo.). 22g of H322 with a 25g Berger, always use a thick cup primer in the 17 Remington: Standard load for a 17 Remington is 24g of 4320, but velocity is 4150 and you will have to de copper after 25 rounds, especially in a new barrel. Five loads with A-4064 and 40-, 50- and 55-grain bullets in the .22-250 averaged .68 inch for five-shot groups. Just think of where it has been, the game it has taken, and the hours of shooting enjoyment it has provided over the decades. Hornady 123-grain Spire Point bullets loaded over LT-32 and fired from a CZ 527 7.62 x39 formed this 100-yard group. That pair shot five bullets well under .5 inch the best the old Swift rifle has shot any load. The testing was done over several range sessions. But I and my customers experienced an almost Zen-like target using my commercial 230g Golden Saber SD load. It may seem odd that a cartridge shooting fat, heavy bullets at moderate velocities would still be popular 116 years after its introduction. Groups were nice round clusters, not two here and three there. Ballistic uniformity was just fine, with the coefficient of variation (C.O.V.) Scott Rupp gets a chance to talk to Aaron Oelger about a few new products from Hodgdon and why reloading store shelves are empty. Based on reloading die sales at RCBS, Ackleys .17 Hornet Improved is still one of the most popular cartridges of its caliber among varmint shooters. I'm shooting 24.5gr/IMR-4320 still shooting some Rem 25gr bullets. is a fine Coyote cartridge but also, this round doesn't chop wood at all. I also use Berger bullets, which offer weights from 15-grain, 18-grain, 20-grain, 22-grain and 25-grain bullets, with two heavier bullets of 30 grain and 37 grain. Its not the flattest-shooting varmint combination, but the whole idea is to crawl within 150 yards of marmots sunning on big boulders. (I used Hornady dies in my Redding T-7 Turret press to prepare the handloads for this article. A form die set is required if .221 Fireball cases are used, but those lucky enough to find Remington .17 Fireball brass can simply run them through a .17 Mach IV full-length sizing die, add primer, powder and bullet, and head for the varmint fields. Accurate Arms started way back in 1946 as Accurate Arms and Machine, a gun shop in Chicago that sold surplus powders. At 100 yards there is still a healthy 3,389fps velocity and 638ft/lb striking energy that is more than enough for humane despatches. While velocities were a bit slower than those stated by Western, accuracy was great. is readily suitable for shooters to load their own ammunition, and dies, other tools, and accoutrements are available, as are bullets especially designed for the round. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? Because The Lee Factory Crimp Die (#90828 for the .35 Rem.) | sierra Gameking , AOL. difficult to compile. The CCI A17 load has a catalog MV of 2650 fps and chronographed between 2775 and 2809 fps from our test rifles. Primer Hornady V-max 25 gr. 17 REMINGTON 17 REMINGTON The following data was developed in a Sako A1 rifle. That total does not include practice, The first three were rimless versions of the Winchester cartridges, with slight dimensional changes, and had 0.421-inch rims. CCI TNT: smallest group 1/2"; largest group 2-1/4"; You find 3 loads in caliber .17 Rem. In a precision-built rifle with a good barrel, the .17 Rem. When developing its version of the .17 Hornet, Hornady shortened the .22 Hornet case about 0.050 inch to make overall cartridge length compatible with the magazines of existing rifles in .22 Hornet. If the case is pulled off the stuck bullet, the powder charge will be spilled into the action. The lighter bullet can be boosted by 46.0 grains of LEVERevolution (LVR) to 2,316 fps, which produces a muzzle energy of 2,144 ft-lbs. Chamfer and deburr the mouth of the case, run it through the full-length resizing die and the case is ready for fire forming with a reduced powder charge (I use a 20-grain bullet seated over 11.0 grains of H4198). Kindler 30gr Gold bullets and RL-15 takes the .17 Rem to a new level of killing power. However, some Marlin Model 336s have been observed with very short throats that may contact the bullet when a cartridge is chambered. 55mm. Available as a flat-base design or Maximum Expansion Factor (MEF) bullet, both provide super-fast velocities coupled with a very flat trajectory and sheer on-target energy transfer. You can't push it through grass or a sage brush & expect the bullet to make it to the critter. FEDERAL Premium V-Shok: high 2631 fps; low 2539 fps; Incidentally, in a This has been the most consistantly accurate load combo I've found for both 222s'. We will continue to update this list as new rifles are reviewed and additional data becomes available. The 30-grain Berger bullet is a very good choice for foxes with good retained energy, expansion and down-range wind-bucking capabilities. These were with 25gr Hornady hp's seated .005" off . average velocities than called for by the factory specifications. An additional 100 fps of velocity might be squeezed from other powders in the .22-250, but youd be hard-pressed to improve accuracy. human error as possible, the rifles were fired from the range's heavy All five groups were shot with Accurate 2495 and Nosler 70-grain Ballistic Tips from a Cooper Firearms Model 22 .243 Winchester. 10 MPH crosswind this bullet will drift 3.3" laterally at 100 yards and Bullet Allinant Reloader 10 @ 16.5 gr. This result is almost unheard If you are shooting magpies, crows or other feathered vermin then a rapidly expanding 15-grain or 18-grain Berger is just the ticket. Bullet weight: 168, 180 Berger HVLDs. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. He called it the .17 Pee Wee and built a dramatically scaled-down 1917 Enfield action specifically for it. Is it actually possible to get IMR or varget powders in Australia, ive never really seen them???? This short-cut, single-base extruded rifle powder competes with H-4350 and IMR-4350. Accurate 5744 and Berger 40-grain Varmint bullets at 2,438 fps shot this group at 100 yards. Oh, and it still has minimal recoil. We shot at Outers Score Keeper targets. Dimensional differences between the two cases are so slight that load data for the two are interchangeable. Remington surprised everyone by legitimising the .17 by not domesticating the .17/223 cartridge, as expected, but by using the .223 case and pushing the shoulder back, therefore producing a longer neck. Its best use is for low-pressure, cast-bullet loads in the .223 on up to the .45-70. 15 yards isn't much of a test for accuracy. First, a bit of background history. Copyright 2005 by Chuck Hawks. This load shot a 1.05-inch group at 100 yards, with four of the bullets in .61 inch. yard velocity/energy figures for this load are 1873 fps and 132 ft. lbs. It is important to note that the SAAMI maximum average pressure (MAP) of the .35 Rem. Posts: 273. Reloaders should be careful not to mix or switch case brands with a chosen load. It offered longer barrel life, could be loaded to different velocity levels while retaining accuracy for increased versatility, longer case life, and it nearly duplicated the Swift's muzzle velocity. This is based on instrumental The one I have now is a SAKO A1. (Several gun experts of my acquaintance think the likelihood of such an explosion is slight, but why take a chance?). The factory ammo was and is very accurate ammo, this load may possible be Remington's recipe. claimed MV of 2650 fps and ME of 264 ft. lbs. ft. lbs. But do you know how to properly use them? at 100 yards. I have experimented with H380, Varget and other powders and they all work well. So if you find yourself in possession of a nice vintage rifle chambered for the .35 Rem., do not despair. | Made in Canada, this intermediate-burning, single-base extruded powder works best in the .22-250 Remington, .220 Swift and .243 Winchester. Bought 100 pieces of Norma brass to load with. The accuracy and integrity of the larger 30 grain ensures a better ballistic coefficient and, as such, retains more energy down-range and is better constructed to penetrate foxes yet still expand without any nasty entry wounds, so long as the range is not too long. Theres another point thats important when reloading the .35 Rem. If the rifle is accurate, one really has to be "off the playing field" to assemble handloads that won't shoot. As A-2230s name implies, its designed around the .223 Remington. Patrick's top picks for loading the .17 Remington Fireball are Hodgdon's CFE BLK, Accurate's A-2200, Alliant's Reloder 10x and Western Powders' Ramshot X-Terminator. The 260 Remington is essentially the old wildcated 6.5-08, a 308 necked down to the .264 bullet. Anschutz Model 1717 D Classic, .17 HMR - 0.92", (TIE) CZ Model 452-2E American, .17 HMR - 1.06", Anschutz Model 1717 D KL, .17 HMR - 1.08", (TIE) Remington Model 547 Custom C Grade, .17 HMR - 1.13", (TIE) Remington Model 504-T LS HB, .17 HMR - 1.16", Thompson/Center Contender G2, .17 HMR - 1.21", Marlin Model 917VS ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.25", Winchester 1885 Low Wall Hunter, .17 WSM - 1.25", Savage Model 93R17 Classic, .17 HMR - 1.31", Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.44", Stevens Favorite Model 30R17, .17 HMR - 1.46", Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.54", Winchester 1885 Low Wall, .17 HMR - 2.05", Remington Model 547 Custom C Grade, .17 HMR - 0.69" (Remington), Anschutz Model 1717 D Classic, .17 HMR - 0.73" (CCI), Savage B.MAG Target, .17 WSM - 0.75" (Winchester), Thompson/Center Contender G2, .17 HMR - 0.80" (Remington), Remington Model 597 LS HB, .17 HMR - 0.84" (CCI), Browning T-Bolt Target/Varmint, .17 HMR - 0.88" (Winchester), Anschutz Model 1717 D KL, .17 HMR - 0.93" (Remington), Weatherby Mark XXII, .17 HMR - 0.94" (Hornady), CZ Model 452-2E American, .17 HMR - 0.96" (CCI), Remington Model 504-T LS HB, .17 HMR - 0.98" (Federal), (TIE) Marlin Model 917VS ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.0" (Hornady), Anschutz Model 1502 D HB, .17 M2 - 1.06" (Hornady), Marlin Model 917VS ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.13" (Hornady), (TIE) Savage Model 93R17-BTVS, .17 HMR - 1.17" (CCI), (TIE) Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.25" (Hornady), Stevens Favorite Model 30R17, .17 HMR - 1.27" (Hornady & Remington - tie), (TIE)Henry Golden Boy, .17 HMR - 1.40" (Remington), Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.47" (CCI), Winchester 1885 Low Wall, .17 HMR - 1.5" (Remington).

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